tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post8238506504120127815..comments2024-03-11T14:14:58.812-04:00Comments on TheHoundBlog: Velvet Underground- Pre-OpThe Houndhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06328225246284521960noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-3002384390908300072011-10-06T13:36:34.643-04:002011-10-06T13:36:34.643-04:00Oh my god, there's a lot of effective material...Oh my god, there's a lot of effective material in this post!www.muebles-en-mostoles.comhttp://www.muebles-en-mostoles.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-52224583446686997102010-09-24T08:58:58.840-04:002010-09-24T08:58:58.840-04:00I haven't heard the "Soundsville" st...I haven't heard the "Soundsville" stuff, but there's a bootleg called "Velvet Underground - etc." that has Cycle Annie, Sneaky Pete, The Ostrich, and You're Driving Me Insane.<br />No link, but it's floating around the Interweb somewhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-26963147170818691562010-06-22T05:18:52.079-04:002010-06-22T05:18:52.079-04:00Just a tip.
the so-called Professor Tapes at
htt...Just a tip.<br /><br />the so-called Professor Tapes at<br /><br />http://www.thenunsareontheseawall.blogspot.com/<br /><br />/RAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-44499653019156435832010-06-06T20:45:58.845-04:002010-06-06T20:45:58.845-04:00I've just started reading Richie Unterberger&#...I've just started reading Richie Unterberger's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/White-Light-Heat-Underground-Genuine/dp/1906002223/" rel="nofollow">White Light/White Heat: The Velvet Underground Day-By-Day</a>, and it does a good job of weaving together the pre-VU stories of Lou, John, Nico, Tony et al and making sense of how they all came together.<br /><br />Reading it, I really get the sense that there's plenty of stuff out there on tape (or budget vinyl) that may still come to light some day.jneilnycnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-39611637944999766002010-05-19T13:45:46.093-04:002010-05-19T13:45:46.093-04:00The closest Pickwick LP to me, OUT OF SIGHT, clear...The closest Pickwick LP to me, OUT OF SIGHT, clearly states "Long Island City." So the books placing them in Coney Island is wrong.<br />PJLJumpynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-35500739102568356262010-05-11T00:25:16.752-04:002010-05-11T00:25:16.752-04:00P.S. For what it's worth, there is a boot call...P.S. For what it's worth, there is a boot called "Soundsville-Pre-VU" floating around the net. It's 32 numbers, and covers everything that Reed played on or was rumored to have. It also scoops up those few Nico tracks and some odd Cale and MacLise stuff. It's all well worth the listen to, and the price is right. Cool cover art as well.Doc Cowboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14895206338546327265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-49880681196602504492010-05-11T00:14:14.560-04:002010-05-11T00:14:14.560-04:00Funny how good this stuff is. It's pretty cool...Funny how good this stuff is. It's pretty cool to hear on "Your Love", Lou uses a couple of lines that he would recycle for "Caroline Says" off of 1973's Berlin. Considering there is only 10 years between the two, it is amazing how much not only his music changed, but popular music in general.<br /><br />I too grew up in Buffalo, and was friends with Tony Conrad's son in the mid-late 80's. They lived in a double floor loft outside of downtown, each one occupying a separate floor. We would bang around instruments on some amplifiers that his dad had knocking about from the early sixties. A real nifty Gretsch combo sticks in my mind. I always wondered if that was over on Ludlow Street when Tony, John and Lou shared their space. As for the Primitives tape, my recollection was that it was a rehearsal of the band with Reed,Cale,Conrad, and DeMaria. Tony was/is a great instigator locally in Buffalo...I was party to a wonderfully absurd protest that Tony held in Lewiston N.Y. 18 of us were arrested and he was able to make a minor free speech event out of it, even getting a V.V. editorial out of Nat Hentoff. As far as VU tapes go, Tony was evasive. He knew that those were best left far out of the reach of the talons of his son and his friends. We understood the value of a good bootleg. That said and done, there were rumors from many older and wiser hipsters, of the stuff he had. I know for fact that he spoke of filming/video taping (he's a HUGE video nut and had some of the early machines)them on Cleveland's UPBEAT tv show.Doc Cowboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14895206338546327265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-60137700097474482202010-05-10T02:17:17.265-04:002010-05-10T02:17:17.265-04:00"There is one other Lou vocal track called Ya..."There is one other Lou vocal track called Ya Running But I'll Getcha (tho there's no real proof, but he has a pretty distinct croak) by THE J BROTHERS on an LP on Design Records with no real title other than THE FOUR SEASONS/JOHNNY RIVERS/NEIL SEDAKA and really small...the j brothers...typical exploito early tracks by people with hits like pickwick...these labels (i.e. crown, diplomat, tifton, power, etc"<br /><br />I guess I'll go through all my budget comps and see if I have that one, it's the first mention of it I've ever heard. Many of those tracks also show up on albums on Grand Prix and Guest Star (Crown was strictly stuff from the Modern/RPM/Meteor catolog) albums as well. I might have had it at one point and got rid of it not knowing, although if it had early Johnny Rivers (his Roulette sides usually are what end up on those discs, they're pretty good) I would have kept it. Funny that if Lou's singing on it no one has ever mentioned it in an article. Thanks for the tip.The Houndhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06328225246284521960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-61941351066264825912010-05-06T20:46:47.331-04:002010-05-06T20:46:47.331-04:00There is one other Lou vocal track called Ya Runni...There is one other Lou vocal track called Ya Running But I'll Getcha (tho there's no real proof, but he has a pretty distinct croak) by THE J BROTHERS on an LP on Design Records with no real title other than THE FOUR SEASONS/JOHNNY RIVERS/NEIL SEDAKA and really small...the j brothers...typical exploito early tracks by people with hits like pickwick...these labels (i.e. crown, diplomat, tifton, power, etc.)traded songs /backing tracks or were possibly owned by some of the same creeps...i did massive research on the LP's by Frankie Stein & His Ghouls & started realizing all the cross referenced tracks including identical tracks on the Sun Ra Batman LP (without monster sound effects...this was supposed to be in a book and was edited down to a paragraph with no information in it that cut 9/10ths of what i wrote out, made me look retarded & hate paople that do this crap (i won't mention the book)...anyway...there are 3 other J Brothers tracks that sound totally different to the "Lou" one...doo woppy...but who knows????Howie Pyrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15389999293975721049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-71409248489357293642010-05-06T20:45:09.472-04:002010-05-06T20:45:09.472-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Howie Pyrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15389999293975721049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-30182014990810003412010-05-03T14:12:58.064-04:002010-05-03T14:12:58.064-04:00A couple of books have Pickwick as being headquart...A couple of books have Pickwick as being headquarted in Coney Island.<br />Other online sources say Long Island City.<br />Could this be confusion due to the word "island" (Long Island City) and Lou's "Coney Island Baby"?<br />PJLJumpynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-77501202012277520472010-05-03T14:04:16.599-04:002010-05-03T14:04:16.599-04:00I have an interview with Cale. I think it was in T...I have an interview with Cale. I think it was in Trouser Press. When asked about the Beechnuts, he responded, "The what?"<br />PJLJumpynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-63295836552450399872010-05-03T14:03:03.238-04:002010-05-03T14:03:03.238-04:00In the '80s some rock book had an entry on the...In the '80s some rock book had an entry on the V.U. One of the guitarists was listed as "Ostrich."<br />I put that one back.<br />PJLJumpynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-50466627223162131132010-05-02T20:08:16.382-04:002010-05-02T20:08:16.382-04:00" I had it on a compilation somewhere - can&#..." I had it on a compilation somewhere - can't remember which one. More time wasting for me."<br /><br />"It's on a garage comp called What A Way To Die, the liner notes to which suggest possible LR involvement.<br />One of the best garage comps ever in my estimation"<br /><br />Agreed!<br /><br />Cheers :-)<br /><br />http://paradiseofgaragecomps.blogspot.com/2009/05/what-way-to-die-lp-satan-1983.htmlHollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17822820465535539404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-32814140509869490032010-05-01T19:56:02.927-04:002010-05-01T19:56:02.927-04:00" The Gymnasium was not Cale's final show..." The Gymnasium was not Cale's final show. He was ousted after Sept. '68shows in Boston. The Gymnasium show was April '67."<br /><br />The Gymnasium might have been his last NYC appearences w/the Velvets, the did stop playing NYC between then and the final Max's shows for some reason (probably because there was no place to play, Bill Graham hated 'em and wouldn't book them at the Filmore). Now that I think of it, I've also heard his final shows were in Chicago when they appeared without Lou who was down w/hep. and Moe Tucker played bass and A. Macluise was brought back on drums for that one show.The Houndhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06328225246284521960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-18323582350417242192010-05-01T19:19:19.146-04:002010-05-01T19:19:19.146-04:00Excellent post but one correction; The Gymnasium w...Excellent post but one correction; The Gymnasium was not Cale's final show. He was ousted after Sept. '68shows in Boston. The Gymnasium show was April '67.<br />MikeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-39370875389606064172010-04-30T13:40:10.514-04:002010-04-30T13:40:10.514-04:00"I'm not sure if it's been mentioned ..."I'm not sure if it's been mentioned already, but Spiritualized does a stellar cover of "Why Don't You Smile Now?""<br /><br />and for those into that sort of thing, J Spaceman of Spirtualized recently released a record w/my old pal Mathew Shipp, its mostly drones but nice to put on at bedtime if you need to block out street noise or your partner coughing or snoring.....it's called SpaceShipp on the Treader label.The Houndhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06328225246284521960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-14242673812778268412010-04-29T20:52:53.910-04:002010-04-29T20:52:53.910-04:00I'm not sure if it's been mentioned alread...I'm not sure if it's been mentioned already, but Spiritualized does a stellar cover of "Why Don't You Smile Now?"<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-IJglXgiaoDavidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08569343188716565275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-77681842450950941292010-04-29T19:33:42.683-04:002010-04-29T19:33:42.683-04:00The daughter of Bob Shad cited but not named in Ho...The daughter of Bob Shad cited but not named in Hound's excellent post probably was Tamara Shad, who inherited Bob's masters after his death. One of her three kids is Judd Apatow, director of 'The 40-Year Old Virgin,' 'Knocked Up,' and 'Funny People.' She died 5/1/2008 after a long battle with cancer.Gramercy7http://www.nyrocker.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-77205569379206109652010-04-29T15:15:04.631-04:002010-04-29T15:15:04.631-04:00this fukin blog is insane !!!! thanks so much houn...this fukin blog is insane !!!! thanks so much hound!!!!!! love ya man!!!!BIG STANKYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06925271811179864546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-65332032333564542722010-04-29T11:50:58.830-04:002010-04-29T11:50:58.830-04:00Stop waiting for a Velvet Underground reunion, I s...Stop waiting for a Velvet Underground reunion, I say we start demanding a Primitives reunion gig. What could go wrong? I just read that Lou Reed will reign as King Neptune in this year's Coney Island Mermaid Parade (Harvey Keitel did the honors last year) with Laurie Anderson as the Queen Mermaid on Saturday, June 12. Show up and throw him a fish!scott c.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-21604667938935624742010-04-29T09:01:39.689-04:002010-04-29T09:01:39.689-04:00Thanks again Hound,
'Do the Ostrich' has l...Thanks again Hound,<br />'Do the Ostrich' has long been a favourite, but I'd never heard 'Why Don't You Smile Now' before, which is fantastic!Christopher Fasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14922703251133192535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-38360781738079225692010-04-28T20:19:39.463-04:002010-04-28T20:19:39.463-04:00Great cuts. And nice to see evidence of the early...Great cuts. And nice to see evidence of the early LR. I had a hint of that in 1978, when I moved back to NY and lived with my folks for a few months when I got booted out of college. I needed a stereo, and found an ad for someone selling a used one in my hometown. Turned out to be an old lady and the stereo belonged to one of her now-grown kids. We chatted for a while, and she asked me what my favorite music was. I said the Velvet Underground — assuming, of course, she'd have no clue who they were. Her face lit up and she said, You mean Lou Reed's band???? It turned out she was the cleaning lady for Lou's dorm when he was at Syracuse, and she LOVED him. She said he was the sweetest of all the boys in the dorm, the most well-mannered and the kindest to her. She'd bake cakes and treats for him, and when he left college he would write to her. She said they still corresponded.Lizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06134928709362083111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-18728864895095895282010-04-28T10:23:28.546-04:002010-04-28T10:23:28.546-04:00"The All Night Workers - is Lou Reed/John Cal..."The All Night Workers - is Lou Reed/John Cale etc. involved with their "Honey & Wine"/"God Bless The Child" 45 on Cameo from 1966. It was "supervised" by Terry Phillips, but then again, Terry could've just taken the name and put it on another anonymous group. Anybody know?"<br /><br />Given the late catolog #, this must have been re-leased around '66 by which time Reed and Cale were long gone, the Velvet Underground were already recording their first LP and touring w/Warhold's EPI show. It was produced by Terry Phillips who also sang back up with Jerry Vance on it. The a-side is a Goffin-King song. The All Night Workers would cut one last single, for Mercury in '68-- The Collector b/w Misery, the a-side was a Sonny Curtis (I Fought The Law, Mary Tyler Moore Theme). By that point even Phillips and Vance were gone.The Houndhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06328225246284521960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226924615283203864.post-41594533999893737602010-04-28T07:31:41.266-04:002010-04-28T07:31:41.266-04:00" I had it on a compilation somewhere - can&#..." I had it on a compilation somewhere - can't remember which one. More time wasting for me."<br /><br />It's on a garage comp called What A Way To Die, the liner notes to which suggest possible LR involvement.<br />One of the best garage comps ever in my estimation, it includes the Pleasure Seekers' (w/Suzi & Patti Quatro) title track which is worth the price of the whole thing. I have no idea if it's still in print or not.The Houndhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06328225246284521960noreply@blogger.com